anonim_4396
| anonim_4396 a întrebat:

Cine sau ce l-a facut pe Dumnezeu?

28 răspunsuri:
| EmaS a răspuns:

El este fiinta eterna.Este din vesnicie in vesnicie.

| cristi202 a răspuns:

Dumnezeu nu poate fi facut. Facerea este in timp, pentru ca presupune un timp cind lucrul facut nu exista, si unul cind exista, ori, Dumnezeu e in afara timpului, care tot de El e creat.

| MasterOfDisaster a răspuns:

Teoretic, daca ar fi sa ne luam dupa biblie, Dumnezeu nu a fost 'facut' de nimeni si de nimic. El doar este.

| Thunderstruck a răspuns:

Maica-sa.

| RAY a răspuns:

Oamenii lau creat pentru nevoile lor, dumnezeu nu exista e exact ca restul personajelor imaginare create de om de-a lungul istoriei, sumerieni-egipteni-greci-iudei-crestini-mulsumani toate mitologiile sunt copiate dupa mitologia sumeriana si egipteana si de ce sa nu uitam si de filizofia budista, esenta credintei e suferinta = budism, bunatatea, pacea etc, sa nu uitam ca horus = isus, potopul = din mitologia egipteana etc

| M25M a răspuns:

Oamenii, care practic au comasat zeitatile de atunci, care erau responsabile pe un domeniu anume, in unul singur sau ...trei daca pui sfanta treime care alcatuiesc pe Dumnezeu ...sau sunt separate in fine. intelegi tu e prea confuz pentru mine.

| WhatheWow a răspuns:

Dumnezeul crestin L-au creat evreii.

| KristalPop a răspuns:

Un lucru mult prea complicat, pe care mintea omenească nu-l poate percepe.
Nu este un lucru palpabil.

| KristalPop a răspuns:

Eu nu am făcut altceva decât să spun ceea ce am învăţat la liceu, aşa mi s-a spus. Poate tu înţelegi în alt mod lucrurile.

| aliceinchains a răspuns (pentru KristalPop):

Păi și dacă ție ți se spune ceva la școală, tu iei absolut tot de bun? Încearcă să gândești logic atunci când ți se spune ceva și apoi tragi concluzii, dacă e așa sau nu. O iei logic.
Chestia asta cu "mintea omenească nu poate percepe asta" nu ți se pare mai mult o asigurare a credincioșilor? Adică, ei nu mai sunt nevoiți să îți explice ce și cum, de ce e așa, ce dovezi s-au găsit etc., ci spun repede că e peste înțelegerea umană și gata. Ăsta e răspunsul. Nu, nu e. Trebuie să existe dovezi, dacă nu există niciuna, înseamnă că nu e așa.

| KristalPop a răspuns (pentru aliceinchains):

Bă, frate, popa aşa a spus. Nu am spus că eu cred.
Ce mi s-a spus, am spus şi eu.

| aliceinchains a răspuns (pentru KristalPop):

Și dacă el așa a spus, tu trebuie să reproduci cuvintele lui? Dacă nu ești de acord cu el, de ce mai spui ce zice? Și, nu cred că cineva voia să știe ce spune un popă, că asta știe toată lumea, toți continuă cu bălăcăreală religioasă, nimic nou aici.

| KristalPop a răspuns:

Nu spun că nu ar exista Dumnezeu, fiindcă dacă te gândeşti mai bine la istorie, ar fi existat un acel "Dumnezeu", dar în mare parte sunt de acord cu tine.

| DyNo a răspuns:

Cine a avut nevoie de autosugestie.

| Salahadin73 a răspuns:

Damn..In baghavad gita se vorbeste despre universuri paralele si tu spui ca nu puteau sa explice fulgerul si tunetul.
Citeste cartea de mai sus plus zoharul complet, vedele, upanisadele si vezi ce cunostinte aveau anticii in stiinta si dupa aia mai vorbim.

| slowswag a răspuns:

Nimeni,el a existat din totdeauna

| GRs a răspuns (pentru slowswag):

Mai gandeste-te, cum sa exista dintotdeauna fara sa fi aparut cumva? Inseamna ca traim intr-o lume fictiva.

| tinerelul a răspuns:

Nimeni

| abcabcabc a răspuns:

Fa fapte bune crede in El si mergi la biserica iar dupa ce morio de batranete daca te conformezi si mergi in rai il poti intreba personal

| DjCristian a răspuns:

Dumnezeu este etern, omniscient, atemporal, aspatial, imaterial etc, deci nu este conditionat de nimic existent. Nu l-a creat nimeni el a existat intotdeauna.

| andreisirghi27as a răspuns:

Nu l-a creat nimeni e de totdeauna.citeste inceputul Bibliei si te vei lamuri in privinta asta.e greu de inteles, dar ascultal tu pe Dumnezeu si cand vei ajunge in rai sa-L intrebi.

| GRs a răspuns (pentru andreisirghi27as):

Daca ne spunea cum a aparut nu mai punea nimeni intrebarea asta. Cum sa existe dintotdeauna fara sa apara intr-un mod? Apare din nimic, creaza totul din nimic, creaza lumina si de abia apoi soarele... nu are logica.

| PαtнwαуTσBℓιѕѕ a răspuns (pentru GRs):

Pai nu e logic ca noi sintem fiinte FINITE, EL E INFINIT. May God bless you. Ne-am nascut sa ii slujim, dar si satan s-a rebelit impotriva Lui Dumnezeu si uite unde a ajuns!
Noi alegem Rai sau Iad.Ori iL urmam pe Isus ori pe satan. Nu putem servi la doi stapani.
Intelligent Design vs. Evolution: All Things Were Created... Designed in Perfect Intelligence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gYGOoaYkxiw


He has no beggining no END.
WE HAVE FINITE MINDS, WE CANNOT UNDERSTAND HIM.
Hebrews 7:3
Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a priest forever.
Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Matthew 1:23 - "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."
Isaiah 43:10, 11 - "You are My witnesses," says the Lord, "And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior."
Revelation 1:17-18; Revelation 2:8 - (Jesus is the First and the Last)

Isaiah 44:6 - (God is the Redeemer)
2 Peter 1:1 (Jesus is the Redeemer) - "To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ"

Isaiah 44:24 - (God created the world by His self alone)
John 1:3; Colossians 1:16 - (Jesus made all things)


John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,

John 5:17, 18 - "My Father has been working until now, and I have been working." Therefore the Jews sought to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.


John 5:23 - that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.


John 8:24 - "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM He, you will die in your sins."

John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."


John 10:30-33 - Jesus answered them, "I and My Father are one." Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, "Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?" The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God."

John 14:6-7 - Jesus said to him, "I AM the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."


John 14:9-11 - Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?"


John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Acts 4:12 - "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."


Acts 20:28 - (God purchased us with His own blood)
Revelation 1:5, 6; Revelation 5:8-9 - (Jesus' blood purchased us)

Philippians 2:5-7 - Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bond-servant, and coming in the likeness of men.

1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Titus 2:13 - looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ

Hebrews 1:8, 9 - But to the Son He (God) says: "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions."

2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Revelation 1:8 - "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

Revelation 22:13 - "I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last."... 22:16 - "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches."


Hebrews 2:17, 18 - "Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted."
Hebrews 4:15, 16 - "For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain merci and find grace to help in time of need."
1 Peter 2:24 - "who Himself bore our sin

| andreisirghi27as a răspuns (pentru GRs):

Stiu ca nu are logica, dar ce nu e cu putinta la oameni e cu putinta la Dumnezeu

| GRs a răspuns (pentru andreisirghi27as):

De ce ne-a creat Dumnezeu daca nu-l putem intelege?
Cum poti iubi pe cineva pe care nu-l poti intelege?

| andreisirghi27as a răspuns (pentru GRs):

Nu-L intelegem pentru ca e mai presus mintea si de logica de noastra

| GRs a răspuns (pentru andreisirghi27as):

Super! Deci ne-a creat ca sa nu-l putem intelege, asa ca hai sa-l iubim. laughing
E atotputernic, putea sa ne creeze cum vroia, dar ne-a creat sa nu-l intelegem? De ce?

| andreisirghi27as a răspuns (pentru GRs):

Poti sa-l intelegi daca esti spirit El e spirit, oameni sunt trupuri nu avem cum sa intelegem.cand o sa murim si o sa iasa sufletul din trup o sa-L intelegem.

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