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Am instalat THE PUNISHER in pc, am o placa video cu urmatoarele caracteristici:
-nume:Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family
-producator:Intel Corporation
-Chip type:Intel(R) GMA 3100
-DAC Type:Internal
-Aproxximativ total memory:384.0 MB
-Current display mode(nu cred ca conteaza):1152x864(32bit)(60Hz)
-Monitorbig grinefault monitor
-Main driver:igxprd32. dll
-versiune:6.14.0010.4990(English)
-Date:08.11.2008
-WHQL Logo'd:YES
-Mini VDD:igxpmp32. sys
-VDD:n/a
-DDI Version:9(or higher)
Problema este ca atunci cand imi cere sa configurez jocul pentru ca mai apoi sa imi dea voie sa il joc nu imi detecteaza nicio placa video(imi cere ceva de genul(T&L). Ce rezolvare pot gasi? De asemenea mentionez ca la unele jocuri imi apare un mesaj ce spune ca nu a putut initializa 3D Device/graphic.Va multumesc anticipat. Cel mai bun raspuns primeste funda.

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| lvl1000 a răspuns:

Nu prea ai ce face. GMA 3100 este o placa integrata absolut inutila pentru gaming.
Din cate imi aduc aminte, e posibil sa mai pacalesti din cerintele uui joc cu 3danalyzer ( dai disable sau emulate la optiuni), dar probabil ca tot nu o sa ai un unumar suficient de frame-uri.

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| Condratt explică (pentru lvl1000):

Mersi mult! Apropo ce placa video as putea folosi pentru gamming?

| lvl1000 a răspuns (pentru Condratt):

Nu stiu ce sistem ai.
GMA 3100 a fost in general o placa integrata folosita pentru laptopuri. Daca ai pe laptop e cam 90% sansa sa nu poti upgrada nimic. ( e lipita pe placa de baza si NU exista slot de extensie pentru placi dedicate, nu in toate, dar in majoritatea cazurilor)

Daca o ai pe un sistem desktop de obicei se poate adauga o placa dedicata, dar trebuie sa specifici ce interfata ai, AGP sau PCI-E, si bugetul disponibil.

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Am un sistem desktop...un pc...in legatura cu bugetul aproximativ 300-400 ron sau care ar fi cea mai buna si la un pret rezonabil.

| lvl1000 a răspuns (pentru Condratt):

Iarasi era bine sa stiu exact ce sistem ai si daca are rost ( sau e macar posibil) sa upgradezi. Indiferent de cat de puternica e placa video, daca nu are un procesor/memorie ram in spate sa o ajute e inutil.

Cu 300-350 de lei poti sa iei la SH un HD5770 1Gb. Placa care mie mi-a rulat cam 90% din jocuri pe detalii maxime aparute ( pe rezolutie de 1680 x1050 ) pana la jumatatea lui 2011si care doar recent am schimbat-o.
Dar repet acel HD 5770 avea in spate un Phenom II x4 si 4Gb de DDR 3.
Nu stiu cum e la tine. Daca ai un Pentium 4, nu are nici un sens sa cunmperi placa de 300 de lei.

| Condratt explică (pentru lvl1000):

Stii unde as putea gasi datele acestea in pc pentru a ti le spune?

| lvl1000 a răspuns (pentru Condratt):

Http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/Everest-Home-Edition.shtml

Dai jos de pe net Everestul, e 100% gratuit, si it spune absolut orice pe categorii despre calc. tau.
Ce ne intereseaza e numele placii de baza, procesor si memorie.
Si dupa aia vedem daca are sens sa iei vreo placa video noua sau nu.

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Field Value
Computer
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
DirectX 4.10.0.5515 (DirectX 10)
Computer Name ZXZX-8A92642133
User Name zxzx

Motherboard
CPU Type Intel Pentium III Xeon, 2700 MHz (7.5 x 360)
Motherboard Name Unknown
Motherboard Chipset Unknown
System Memory 1014 MB
BIOS Type AMI (07/08/09)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port AnyDATA CDMA USB Serial 1 (DIAG) Device (PID 6502) (COM10)
Communication Port AnyDATA CDMA USB Serial 2 (NMEA) Device (PID 6502) (COM11)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display
Video Adapter Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family (384 MB)

Multimedia
Audio Adapter Intel 82801GB ICH7 - High Definition Audio Controller [A-1]

Storage
IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF
IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller - 27C0
Disk Drive WDC WD5000AAKS-08V0A0 (465 GB, IDE)
Optical Drive AnyDATA CD-ROM USB Device
Optical Drive DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device
Optical Drive TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions
C: (NTFS) 76904 MB (7351 MB free)
D: (NTFS) 199996 MB (143954 MB free)
E: (NTFS) 200028 MB (180679 MB free)
Total Size 465.8 GB (324.2 GB free)

Input
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse

Network
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8102E/RTL8103E Family PCI-E Fast Ethernet NIC
Network Adapter WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface (92.86.59.108)
Modem AnyDATA CDMA USB Modem (PID 6502) #3

Peripherals
USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1]
USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1]
USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1]
USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1]
USB2 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - Enhanced USB2 Controller [A-1]
USB Device AnyDATA CDMA USB Modem (PID 6502) #3
USB Device AnyDATA CDMA USB Serial 1 (DIAG) Device (PID 6502) (COM10)
USB Device AnyDATA CDMA USB Serial 2 (NMEA) Device (PID 6502) (COM11)
USB Device USB Composite Device
USB Device USB Mass Storage Device

Problems & Suggestions
Problem Disk free space is only 10% on drive C:.


Field Value
Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 63-171-0000010-00101111-070809-INTEL$AS153171_G31M-S BIOS P1.80
Motherboard Name Unknown

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel AGTL+
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 360 MHz
Effective Clock 360 MHz
Bandwidth 2880 MB/s



Field Value
Physical Memory
Total 1014 MB
Used 567 MB
Free 446 MB
Utilization 56 %

Swap Space
Total 2441 MB
Used 621 MB
Free 1819 MB
Utilization 25 %

Virtual Memory
Total 3455 MB
Used 1188 MB
Free 2266 MB
Utilization 34 %

Physical Address Extension (PAE)
Supported by Operating System Yes
Supported by CPU Yes
Active Yes


Device Description
DIMM1: Nanya M2Y1G64TU88D7B-AC



Device Description
Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family

Astea sunt unele din datele cele mai importante cred eu si cred ca se regasesc cele spuse de tine!

| Condratt explică (pentru lvl1000):

Field Value Computer Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional OS Service Pack Service Pack 2 DirectX 4.10.0.5515 (DirectX 10) Computer Name ZXZX-8A92642133 User Name zxzx Motherboard CPU Type Intel Pentium III Xeon, 2700 MHz (7.5 x 360) Motherboard Name Unknown Motherboard Chipset Unknown System Memory 1014 MB BIOS Type AMI (07/08/09) Communication Port Communications Port (COM1) Communication Port AnyDATA CDMA USB Serial 1 (DIAG) Device (PID 6502) (COM10) Communication Port AnyDATA CDMA USB Serial 2 (NMEA) Device (PID 6502) (COM11) Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1) Display Video Adapter Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family (384 MB) Multimedia Audio Adapter Intel 82801GB ICH7 - High Definition Audio Controller [A-1] Storage IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller - 27C0 Disk Drive WDC WD5000AAKS-08V0A0 (465 GB, IDE) Optical Drive AnyDATA CD-ROM USB Device Optical Drive DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device Optical Drive TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SMART Hard Disks Status OK Partitions C: (NTFS) 76904 MB (7351 MB free) D: (NTFS) 199996 MB (143954 MB free) E: (NTFS) 200028 MB (180679 MB free) Total Size 465.8 GB (324.2 GB free) Input Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse Network Network Adapter Realtek RTL8102E/RTL8103E Family PCI-E Fast Ethernet NIC Network Adapter WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface (92.86.59.108) Modem AnyDATA CDMA USB Modem (PID 6502) #3 Peripherals USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1] USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1] USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1] USB1 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - USB Universal Host Controller [A-1] USB2 Controller Intel 82801GB ICH7 - Enhanced USB2 Controller [A-1] USB Device AnyDATA CDMA USB Modem (PID 6502) #3 USB Device AnyDATA CDMA USB Serial 1 (DIAG) Device (PID 6502) (COM10) USB Device AnyDATA CDMA USB Serial 2 (NMEA) Device (PID 6502) (COM11) USB Device USB Composite Device USB Device USB Mass Storage Device Problems & Suggestions Problem Disk free space is only 10% on drive C:. Field Value Motherboard Properties Motherboard ID 63-171-0000010-00101111-070809-INTEL$AS153171_G31M-S BIOS P1.80 Motherboard Name Unknown Front Side Bus Properties Bus Type Intel AGTL+ Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 360 MHz Effective Clock 360 MHz Bandwidth 2880 MB/s Field Value Physical Memory Total 1014 MB Used 567 MB Free 446 MB Utilization 56 % Swap Space Total 2441 MB Used 621 MB Free 1819 MB Utilization 25 % Virtual Memory Total 3455 MB Used 1188 MB Free 2266 MB Utilization 34 % Physical Address Extension (PAE) Supported by Operating System Yes Supported by CPU Yes Active Yes Device Description DIMM1: Nanya M2Y1G64TU88D7B-AC Device Description Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family Cam astea sunt cele mai importante date si se regasesc cele spuse de tine!

| lvl1000 a răspuns (pentru Condratt):

Ce era mai important u a spus ( numele placii de baza) dar dupa codificare pare sa fie o placa pe socket 775 si interfata grafica pe PCI-E.
Nu are sens sa te arunci la placi video prea scumpe, sistemul e cam depasit pentru joace.
Un HD 4650 / HD 5550 ( noi sunt cam 170 ron, SH poate le gasesti pe la 100) si daca mai raman bani 1 Gb de ram la 70 de lei si mai aduci un suflu nou.
Nu te astepta la minuni, dar diferenta ar trebui sa fie destul de mare comparativ cu GM 3100 ala penal.

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Aha

| Condratt explică (pentru lvl1000):

Aha,in cazul in care as vrea sa imi fac o unitate pentru gamming cam ce piese imi recomanzi? sa ma incadrez in aprozimativ 2000-2200Ron.(doar piese pentru unitate centrala. fara monitor si celelalte periferice).

| lvl1000 a răspuns (pentru Condratt):

Placa de baza AM3+ (viata relativ lunga suporta ultimele procesoare de la AMD) - ~ 300 ron
AMD Phenom II x4 ( 4 nuclee) 3, 2 Gh ( penultima generatie de procesoare, o recomand totusi pentru ca ultima desi are preturi asemanatoare e prea noua si poate fi cu probleme) 500 ron
Memorie RAM de la Corsair DDR 3 cl9 1333 - 4 Gb kit dual ( 2x 2) (cu mai mult n-ai ce face) - ~150 ron
Placa video HD 6870 ~ 800 ron
Sursa de curent ~ 200 ron
Carcasa Segotep Raynor (posibilitate 4 coolere, geam lateral sa se vada frumos mai ales daca ai coolere cu leduri big grin, controller de ventilatoare integrat etc ) ~200 ron
Total - 2150

Pe sistemul asta merge orice joc full HD pe setari grafice maxime.
Se recomanda consumat cu un monitor minim de 22` inch ( 300 SH sau 500 nou) ca altfel e pacat big grin

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Mersi mult de tot!